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Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Daanav » Mon May 14, 2018 7:22 pm

Why are Pakistani cricketers not being considered for auction in IPL teams? I am sure there are plenty of cricketers there who enjoy playing and are good at T20 cricket. When IPL started, Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq would have been ideal for the format and yet they were not even considered. Therefore, I assume that it must be some sort of politics involved.

As I see it, it must be one of the following:
- The Indian government has placed some sort of official or unofficial ban on Pakistani cricketers playing in IPL
- The Pakistani government has disallowed any of their players from making themselves available for IPL
- The players themselves have chosen not to take part (which I think is highly unlikely)
- The various sponsors will not allow Pakistani cricketers to advertise their products

Or it could be something else altogether. Although I am of Indian origin, I have lived in the UK for decades and know little (and care even less) about local politics out there.

Does anyone know the answer?

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Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Tue May 15, 2018 12:40 am

There is no place for people of terrorist country that want to kill Indians invited into India ?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 137414.cms

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakista ... _terrorism

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Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Fri May 18, 2018 9:42 am

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ROFL. What a moron.
300 crore INR ? WTF.
10 crore is what a rock star in IPL get paid.
max auction amount.
300 crore for this idiot that too a pakistani ??? for one IPL game ???

1 crore=10000000 rupees
1 crore = 147628.00993 dollars

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby raja » Fri May 18, 2018 6:50 pm

In the first edition in 2008, we did have a few Pakistani players.
Afridi played for Deccan Chargers.
There was Sohail Tanvir who played for RR - he took a 6-14 (still the best figures in IPL, I think).
Might have been the odd other player too.

Then the Mumbai attacks happened.

Thereafter, even if the govt did not officially ban Pakistani players, there was an unwritten code amongst the franchisees that they would not pick up Pak players. The excuse they gave was that the sheer cost of providing security for a Pak player was enormous. If they had to provide this for two months, at multiple venues, it was going to be a nightmare. Pak players would apparently require special security compared to other players.

That line has held to this day.
I think in 2009, the names of Pak players did come up in the auction - but not a single player got sold.
After that, even this pretence stopped.

Interestingly, Pakistanis have been part of the support team for IPL franchisees.
Players like Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis have been around from the beginning.
No problem providing security for them?

Also, Azhar Mahmood got picked in an IPL season - but by then he was seen as an England overseas player, not Pakistani.
Even so, no problem providing security for him?

Also, if I'm not mistaken, we had Pakistani umpires in the IPL too in the early days.
I might be wrong on this.

I must say though that Sohail Tanvir, in an interview in Pakistan, said some rather nasty things about playing in India.

Afridi, on the other hand, has always said he enjoyed playing in India, and for a Hyderabad-based team.
Was popular too in Hyderabad.
Loves the biryani there. :-)

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Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Sat May 19, 2018 1:17 am

come on. Afridi also said too many nasty things about india and Indians. he flip flopped too many times.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/142816/afr ... ian-media/
https://www.firstpost.com/india/shahid- ... 16621.html

Which paymaster tolerate if paid employees show disrespect? they would be shown the door. IPL would have not been successful had they allowed Pakistanis, as indian public don’t want terrorists and terror supporting cricketers like afridi on their soil and politicians are also with them. you don’t want cricket pitch dug by political gains before a cricket match. Muslims of Hyderabad & in fact all over the world notoriously see religion above nation, they even go and fly Pakistani flags and burn living country flags (example: during india pakistan matches or england vs pakistan matches) leading to law and order problems and other headaches.

pakistani cricketers = trouble.

avoid if possible at all costs.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby squarecut » Sat May 19, 2018 2:18 am

In the past (before 2014), we had "secular" government which felt that maintaining "good" relations with Pakistan was important for the sake of their vote bank politics. So they would allow Pakistani citizens to come to India, earn handsomely and then abuse India and Indians after going back. Even terrorist attacks from that nation into India were tolerated. instead of taking firm action, that government had coined a term "saffron" terrorism and they would try to tell people that all these terrorist activities were not by Pakistani terrorists but by Hindus of India.

Mumbai terror attack of 2008 was also tried to be shown as a case of "saffron " terror. One Congressi leader Digvijay Singh actually released a book published by a Pakistan supporting party that claimed that this terror attack was the handiwork of RSS. But much to the chagrin of that "secular" government, a terrorist was actually captured alive and thus it was established that this was very much a case of a terror attack conducted by Pakistanis under the supervision of Pakistani ISI.

Conducting terror attacks on Indian Parliament, then Indian financial capital, then on Indian army camps and then glorifying those attacks as Jihad and/or denying their involvement in these attacks. No self respecting nation should have anything to do with a rouge nation like that. But unfortunately India has far too many "secular" parties that want "good" relations with Pakistan (when "good" relations means allowing Pakistani terrorists to act a free hand in India with those attacks being attributed to "saffron" terror).

Fortunately, India now has a nationalist party ruling at the centre. They too tried to have "good" relations with Pakistan but now they have quickly realised the fact that they were wasting their efforts. Now the policy of this government is to "isolate" Pakistan internationally in all activities, be they Government level meetings (viz SAARC meet) or other meets. Other neighbouring countries that have good relations with India are in support of India and they too want to have nothing to do with Pakistan.

This policy is proving quite successful. Not playing cricket with Pakistan is the most effective of all these efforts. Pakistani terrorists too have helped in it. Not just India, even other cricketing nations have refused to tour Pakistan because these terrorists actually attacked Sri Lankan cricketers' bus when they were touring Pakistan in 2009. The Sri Lankan cricketers had a providential escape. Since then no cricket team tours Pakistan. Pakistan plays their "home" matches against them in Dubai. India of course does not play Pakistan in bilateral matches. India plays Pakistan only in tournaments where several teams are participating.

Today, Indian economy finances world cricket. At least 70 % of the money that ICC earns comes from Indian market which it then distributes to other cricket playing nations. England and Australia together contribute around 20 % while the remaining countries contribute merely 10 %. Pakistan, despite boasting the second largest population among all cricket playing nations does not contribute much to ICC kitty. It contributes less than 3% to the kitty of ICC.

ICC hands out money to its member nations from its earnings. While England and Australia get almost the same amount that their market contributes, India gets far less than its contribution. A sizeable portion of the money that ICC receives from Indian market gets distributed to cricket playing nations that conribute far less.

Indians have no problem with that also as long as those nations act friendly towards India. But just imagine the case of Pakistan. PCB contributes may be $20 million to ICC kitty per year through its cricket market but receives $128 millions from ICC. BCCI through its market enables ICC to earn in billions but receives just $443 millions from ICC. One can say that Indians continue to support Pakistan cricket even though they are not playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan because revenue earned in Indian market is being given to PCB through ICC. To hope that India will allow Pakistani players to play in IPL and make handsome amount of money while continuing to abuse Indians and mock them is something no self respecting Indian would want. I am fully in favour of Indians having to do as little as possible with Pakistan in all fields including cricket unless Pakistan mends its way. I do not see that happening.

People will recall that South Africa were expelled from ICC in 1970 for its apartheid policy. They were admitted back only in 1990 after South Africa removed that policy. Today Pakistan is following state policy of Terrorism. It is time ICC expels Pakistan the same way South Africa was expelled. In 1970s, England was instrumental in expelling South Africa from ICC. Today India is in that position and India should try and get that to happen. Expelling Pakistan from ICC would be one isolation step that may really have salutary effect in changing Pakistani mindset about supporting terrorism.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Katto » Sat May 19, 2018 9:23 am

raja wrote:I must say though that Sohail Tanvir, in an interview in Pakistan, said some rather nasty things about playing in India.


What did he say?

What about Afghanis? Any of those in IPL?

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Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Sat May 19, 2018 4:35 pm

lazy!! you can google his name you get it.

http://www.chakranews.com/top-cricketee ... onal-tv/69

afghans are nice. they have more class than pakistani douchebags.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby raja » Sat May 19, 2018 4:46 pm

Katto wrote:
raja wrote:I must say though that Sohail Tanvir, in an interview in Pakistan, said some rather nasty things about playing in India.


What did he say?

What about Afghanis? Any of those in IPL?


On Pakistani TV, in an interview with an anchor who asked him why Pakistani players were not being picked in the IPL, he said "You know how the mentality of Hindus is".

I must say the anchor also goaded him on. Initially he just said "it's all politics, I don't know why". But the anchor didn't let him get away with that.

Yes, there are Afghans in the IPL.
For the last couple of years.

This year we have 3 of them - of which 2 are playing actively and doing superbly for their sides.
They are among the top players in the IPL.
Both are bowlers - though Rashid is a bit of an allrounder.
Rashid Khan (Sunrisers Hyderabad) and Mujeeb-ur-Rehman (aka Mujeeb Zadran) (KingsXI Punjab).
Both are the main bowlers for their sides.

The third player in Nabi - he also plays for Sunrisers, but has hardly got an opportunity this season.

There's also a player from Nepal this season in the IPL.
Bowler. Sandeep Lamichhane - played only a few games but been impressive.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby squarecut » Sat May 19, 2018 5:43 pm

In fact there have been bowlers from almost every cricket playing nation, including Nepal.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Paddles » Sun May 20, 2018 2:42 am

raja wrote:
Katto wrote:
What did he say?

What about Afghanis? Any of those in IPL?


On Pakistani TV, in an interview with an anchor who asked him why Pakistani players were not being picked in the IPL, he said "You know how the mentality of Hindus is".

I must say the anchor also goaded him on. Initially he just said "it's all politics, I don't know why". But the anchor didn't let him get away with that.

Yes, there are Afghans in the IPL.
For the last couple of years.

This year we have 3 of them - of which 2 are playing actively and doing superbly for their sides.
They are among the top players in the IPL.
Both are bowlers - though Rashid is a bit of an allrounder.
Rashid Khan (Sunrisers Hyderabad) and Mujeeb-ur-Rehman (aka Mujeeb Zadran) (KingsXI Punjab).
Both are the main bowlers for their sides.

The third player in Nabi - he also plays for Sunrisers, but has hardly got an opportunity this season.

There's also a player from Nepal this season in the IPL.
Bowler. Sandeep Lamichhane - played only a few games but been impressive.


There's a fourth Afghan too. http://www.espncricinfo.com/afghanistan ... 12219.html

He just hasn't got game time behind Sodhi and Gopal at RR.

So while their spin stocks are overflowing with talent, Rashid is 19, Mujeeb just 17, and international successes already, they need to find their own version of Gavaskar and Kapil Dev. Shezhad is a good wicket keeper bat.

I like following the rise of Afghan cricket, because it is so rapid, and countries do not normally produce so many stars, while fledgeling and still not able to fill out an 11 with useful cricketers.

But there's just an overabundance of spin talent, and not much else. Nabi, a bowler first, and Shezhad, a keeper, are probably two of their most reliable bats and their seam stocks are below mediocre.
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A third umpire call for a run out or stumping is a referral, not a review.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Sun May 20, 2018 7:26 am

On the topic, Pakistani cricketers will not be allowed to play in India as long as their govt sponsors terrorism.No self respecting country would allow that, my views on this topic are in line with Going South and Squarecut.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Katto » Sun May 20, 2018 12:38 pm

bolero wrote:On the topic, Pakistani cricketers will not be allowed to play in India as long as their govt sponsors terrorism.No self respecting country would allow that, my views on this topic are in line with Going South and Squarecut.


The point is fair however why is it that English cricketers are allowed to play in the IPL?

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm

is england now at war with india proxy or otherwise ?

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Sun May 20, 2018 4:56 pm

Katto wrote:
bolero wrote:On the topic, Pakistani cricketers will not be allowed to play in India as long as their govt sponsors terrorism.No self respecting country would allow that, my views on this topic are in line with Going South and Squarecut.


The point is fair however why is it that English cricketers are allowed to play in the IPL?


England does not support terrorism as a state policy, simple.

Pakistan is in a different bracket altogether. The terrorists who killed about a 100 Australians in the Bali nightclub bombing was captured in Pakistan.

Pakistan is home to all kinds of terrorists.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-12900555

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Sun May 20, 2018 5:09 pm

Nawaz Sharif Admits Pak Terrorists Carried Out 26/11 Mumbai Attacks

NEW DELHI:

Ousted Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif appeared to admit that Pakistani terrorists carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, known as 26/11, and suggest that such terror strikes could have been prevented. In an interview to the Dawn newspaper published on Saturday, Mr Sharif also lamented that Pakistan had isolated itself. He indicated that his country should look into why its narrative that it had been fighting terrorism had not been accepted by the international community "despite sacrifices".

India has long accused Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba of carrying out the attacks in Mumbai on 26 November, 2008, that left 166 people dead and many injured after 10 terrorists with backpacks, automatic weapons and grenades launched a three-day siege on India's financial capital targeting multiple locations.

Mr Sharif did not name Mumbai attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar's Jamaat-ud-Dawah and Jaish-e-Mohammad that operate in the country with impunity in the interview. Or the Lashkar-e-Taiba, which according to India, sailed into Mumbai from Karachi, to carry out the attacks in an operation that was coordinated by Pakistani intelligence agency, ISI.


"Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can't we complete the trial?" he said, according to the newspaper.

The Mumbai case is being tried in an anti-terrorism court since 2009 but the case isn't going anywhere. Indian officials say Pakistan did not keep its end of the bargain and sent the case to court without really investigating the conspiracy that led to the attacks.

Islamabad, on the other hand, has blamed setbacks during the trial on India, insisting that New Delhi had not given "solid evidence" against Hafiz Saeed and others. When Saeed was ordered to be released after 10 months of house arrest in November last, the Pakistan government had justified the move, saying the law was equal for all.

Mr Sharif, 68, was disqualified by the Supreme Court for not being "honest and righteous" as he failed to declare in 2013 a salary he got from the company of his son in the UAE. In February, the top court also disqualified him as the head of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz.

Former PM Nawaz Sharif's apparently conciliatory remark on the state's role in terrorism, however, is unlikely to indicate a concrete shift in Islamabad's position. Just months before Hafiz Saeed was released from detention, Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi had launched a sharp attack on India, over what he had described as, "brutally suppressing" people in Jammu and Kashmir.

In March again, Pakistan had attempted to drag in the Kashmir issue at the United Nations again and was pummelled by New Delhi that underlined India was still waiting for "credible action" to bring all those involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks to justice.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nawaz-s ... ks-1851224

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby raja » Sun May 20, 2018 5:29 pm

Just cos the terrorists came from Pakistan, it doesn't mean that the attack was state-sponsored.
Nawaz Sharif admits the terrorists came from Pakistan - that is common knowledge for years.
But nowhere does he say the state supported these terrorists.

Where the Pakistan state has failed is in eliminating terrorist camps located within its borders.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Sun May 20, 2018 6:03 pm

raja is so naive. bhola.
you have a good heart. you believe everything.
just open your eyes and see the world.
pakistan “state” sponsors terrorism.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Daanav » Sun May 20, 2018 7:09 pm

I think the truth lies somewhere between what Raja and Going South are saying. The problem in Pakistan is that the government is often a puppet one and the real power is with the senior officers in the armed forces. Now, they ARE in league with terrorist groups and to a certain extent do sponsor terrorism against India and other countries.

But IMO that does not apply to civilians for the most part - the ordinary man or woman you come across in the street. Like everyone else, their priority will be a comfortable life for themselves and their families. I doubt very much if the ordinary Pakistani wants hostilities with India; in fact most would probably prefer a friendlier relationship.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby raja » Sun May 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Daanav wrote:I think the truth lies somewhere between what Raja and Going South are saying. The problem in Pakistan is that the government is often a puppet one and the real power is with the senior officers in the armed forces. Now, they ARE in league with terrorist groups and to a certain extent do sponsor terrorism against India and other countries.

But IMO that does not apply to civilians for the most part - the ordinary man or woman you come across in the street. Like everyone else, their priority will be a comfortable life for themselves and their families. I doubt very much if the ordinary Pakistani wants hostilities with India; in fact most would probably prefer a friendlier relationship.


Agree 100%.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Going South » Mon May 21, 2018 2:03 am

you both are wrong.
average pakistani do hate india and indians.
yes they would be ready to kill innocent indians at the drop of hat, such is their hatred.
average pakistani give money and shelter to terrorists knowing fully well that they use that money to kill innocent indians
1 in 10 average pakistani go and join terror organizations and become terrorists themselves. nobody is a born terrorist.
80% of terrorists population of the world live in pakistan. what does that tell you?
1 in 10 pakistani is a ticking time bomb that is going to turn a terrorist today or tomorrow.

there are no gun laws in pakistan. within the country itself everyone owns and uses guns recklessly without any inhibitions, similar to terrorists. The people of the provinces of Punjab and Sindh view the bearing and use of arms as a constitutional right whereas the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan view it as part of their culture. Pakistan is also known for its indigenous gunsmith tradition. A notable centre of gun manufacturing is the town of Darra Adam Khel, near Peshawar, historically known for its Lee–Enfield .303 facsimiles and other Khyber Pass copies. However, the town now produces a broader range of ordnance including AK-47's, mini-Kalashnikovs, and hand-held firearms, including the "James Bond" pen gun.

Other enduring customs and a strong culture of honor also promote the prevalence and importance of guns. In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where the Pashtun residents laud performances of strength and toughness, carrying a AK-47 or other gun is a sign of honour and respect. Similarly, much of mainstream Pakistani culture, including Balochi, Sindhi, Punjabi and Kashmiri cultures, is heavily influenced by guns, as evidenced by common practice of aerial firings on special occasions such as weddings. According to Michael Palin, "For Pakistanis, a gun is a social necessity. Pathans carry guns the way Londoners carry umbrellas." As such, the broader Pakistani social necessity of portable and displayable wealth takes on an intimidating form among male members of provincial society. (wiki)

read this naive people. you have no idea.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... st-groups/

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby squarecut » Mon May 21, 2018 2:20 am

Raja has a good heart and he believes whatever the supporters of Pakistan (liberals, "seculars" etc) say. The point is, Pakistani policies are decided by their army and the wish of Army Chief overrides the wishes of "elected" politicians as we saw in 1999 when Parvez Musharraf vetoed the conciliatory steps of Nawaz Sharif and launched Kargil war instead. The same thing happened after Modi took over as PM and tried to improve relationships with Pakistan. Modi was able to improve relations with all other neighbours (especially with Bangladesh) but his attempts were scuttled by Pakistani army.

We as ordinary Indians have our say in deciding the Indian policy because our wishes get conveyed to our elected rulers and they act accordingly. But the same is not true in case of Pakistani public. No matter what the Pakistani public wants or desires, Pakistani rulers (Army) are not bothered because they are not answerable to anyone in Pakistan. They rule because they have the guns. In Pakistan , Army can usurp power because the Army is basically from the same stock (from Pakistani Punjab) and being from the same community they have kinship with each other and can easily usurp power. Indian rulers were mature and they had ensured that Indian military had recruits from diverse communities and so the Indian Army can never behave as irresponsibly as Pakistan army and the Indian Army has remained disciplined and had remained answerable to Indian elected government.

What the Pakistani public wants has no bearing on what their rulers (Pakistani Army) want. Pakistani army wants confrontation with India. So there is no point wasting our time trying to mend relations with Pakistan.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Mon May 21, 2018 3:21 am

squarecut wrote:Raja has a good heart and he believes whatever the supporters of Pakistan (liberals, "seculars" etc) say. The point is, Pakistani policies are decided by their army and the wish of Army Chief overrides the wishes of "elected" politicians as we saw in 1999 when Parvez Musharraf vetoed the conciliatory steps of Nawaz Sharif and launched Kargil war instead. The same thing happened after Modi took over as PM and tried to improve relationships with Pakistan. Modi was able to improve relations with all other neighbours (especially with Bangladesh) but his attempts were scuttled by Pakistani army.

We as ordinary Indians have our say in deciding the Indian policy because our wishes get conveyed to our elected rulers and they act accordingly. But the same is not true in case of Pakistani public. No matter what the Pakistani public wants or desires, Pakistani rulers (Army) are not bothered because they are not answerable to anyone in Pakistan. They rule because they have the guns. In Pakistan , Army can usurp power because the Army is basically from the same stock (from Pakistani Punjab) and being from the same community they have kinship with each other and can easily usurp power. Indian rulers were mature and they had ensured that Indian military had recruits from diverse communities and so the Indian Army can never behave as irresponsibly as Pakistan army and the Indian Army has remained disciplined and had remained answerable to Indian elected government.

What the Pakistani public wants has no bearing on what their rulers (Pakistani Army) want. Pakistani army wants confrontation with India. So there is no point wasting our time trying to mend relations with Pakistan.


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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Mon May 21, 2018 3:29 am

raja wrote:Just cos the terrorists came from Pakistan, it doesn't mean that the attack was state-sponsored.
Nawaz Sharif admits the terrorists came from Pakistan - that is common knowledge for years.
But nowhere does he say the state supported these terrorists.

Where the Pakistan state has failed is in eliminating terrorist camps located within its borders.


Raja, you are being naive.Its a low cost strategy by Pakistani army (Pakistani state) to finish off India.They send in terrorists because they know their armed forces would be beaten in a direct confrontation.They also know that India uses a reactive strategy which is built on defending itself and the civilian population. In cricketing parlance its like Venkatesh Prasad batting against Shoaib Akhtar without a helmet.The terrorists have the element of surprise and offense and Indian armed forces have been told to go slow not to attack civilian population. Pakistan's ultimate aim as publicly declared is to bleed India through a thousand cuts.

And there are useful idiots who keep defending Pakistan.

Why the f#!$ should India even be allowing them in IPL.

It's like feeding milk to a venomous snake hoping it would not bite you.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby squarecut » Mon May 21, 2018 5:54 am

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Where the Pakistan state has failed is in eliminating terrorist camps located within its borders.


Pakistani army itself has set terrorist camps within its borders and they have no intentions of shutting them down, no matter what the repercussions are for Pakistan . The terrorists are trained and protected by Pakistani army. Osama Bin Laden was being kept hidden in the most secure Military cantonment of Pakistan Army and all that while Pakistanis were denying that he was hiding in Pakistan. So one can be rest assured that Pakistan will always fail in eliminating terrorist camps located within its borders.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Katto » Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 am

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The point is fair however why is it that English cricketers are allowed to play in the IPL?


England does not support terrorism as a state policy, simple.

Pakistan is in a different bracket altogether. The terrorists who killed about a 100 Australians in the Bali nightclub bombing was captured in Pakistan.

Pakistan is home to all kinds of terrorists.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-12900555


yes it does, they openly fund the White Helmets - who are a cut out for ISIS. Its actually worse than that but I don't need to go there to make a point.
the US have ceased funding to this operation under Trump.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby squarecut » Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am

Pakistan has been waging a proxy war on India through their terrorists for the last three decades. No other country is doing that against India. So Pakistan has to be dealt with differently as compared with other countries. Till 2014, Indian Governments had been too pusillanimous in dealing with Pakistanis despite serious provocations all the time. Fortunately now the Indian Government has been taking appropriate steps that were long overdue.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby bolero » Mon May 21, 2018 1:10 pm

Katto wrote:
bolero wrote:
England does not support terrorism as a state policy, simple.

Pakistan is in a different bracket altogether. The terrorists who killed about a 100 Australians in the Bali nightclub bombing was captured in Pakistan.

Pakistan is home to all kinds of terrorists.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-12900555


yes it does, they openly fund the White Helmets - who are a cut out for ISIS. Its actually worse than that but I don't need to go there to make a point.
the US have ceased funding to this operation under Trump.


I kept reading on rumours to this effect. But shocked that they would be doing that actually. It would come back to bite them.

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Daanav » Mon May 21, 2018 2:38 pm

This thread is going too far away from my original question, which had no hidden agenda to it. I am feeling a bit uncomfortable about the political issues being introduced.

May I request the admins to please close this thread?

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Postby squarecut » Mon May 21, 2018 3:10 pm

Most people who commented in this thread are admins themselves. :)

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby Katto » Mon May 21, 2018 5:27 pm

bolero wrote:
Katto wrote:
yes it does, they openly fund the White Helmets - who are a cut out for ISIS. Its actually worse than that but I don't need to go there to make a point.
the US have ceased funding to this operation under Trump.


I kept reading on rumours to this effect. But shocked that they would be doing that actually. It would come back to bite them.


it already has

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Re: Why no Pakistan cricketers in IPL?

Postby raja » Mon May 21, 2018 8:13 pm

As Daanav has requested, I've locked this topic.
The discussion has veered off the original post into the realm of discussing Pakistan and terrorism.